CLUB 487 IN NEW CROSS CLOSED DOWN JUNE 2016. HAS NOW MOVED TO THE OFFICE, LIMEHOUSE (ALREADY CLOSED!)
New adult cinema finally opened in London! At 487 New Cross Road, opened by the same people who were in charge of Fantasy Videos in City Road (?? possibly not).
The builders are just applying “the finishing touches”. Hahaha. Cor! I bet they are!
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Entry is through the two grey double doors of the High Street Printers shown in the photo, £15. Films change on Saturdays. So if you pay your £15 on a Saturday you can come & go for free as many times as you like up to & including Friday. Down the stairs to one small room with a small TV and a bench, another small room with a small TV and a black sofa, and the main room with three rows of seats, 4, 4 & 5 seats, 13 in total, and slightly bigger screen. All three screens show the same film; when I was there: Johnny Darko’s Angels of Debauchery 4 followed by Slutty Girls Love Rocco 6 (both Evil Angel). The entrance to the main room has a very low doorway so most gentleman may need to stoop. Some may say you’ve already stooped so low anyway haha.
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In due course, apparently, they will be opening a much bigger screen upstairs as well. [UPDATE March 18 we hear they have abandoned the idea of a bigger screen and will be installing a series of glory holes instead. New Cross is approaching the greatest times in its history.].
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John Lucas Esq has dipped his quill in the ink & penned this account of depravity for Vice magazine (click below):
London’s Last Sex Cinema Is Back from the Dead – So I Paid a Visit
Further distressing reading:-
I Went to an Incredibly Polite Swingers Party in a South London Porn Cinema
Meeting the Family Behind London’s Last Porn Cinema
And finally the local paper uncovers the reality behind the sticky “tissue of lies”:-
Porn hub: News Shopper visits secret New Cross X-rated cinema where customers have sex in the aisles
I worry John is spending too much time there now:-
I Went to the South London Sex Cinema and Made Some Weird New Friends
On its 50th day the Police finally pay a visit, “tossing” 10 middle-aged men onto the street before “probing” the manager. Filth!:-
Police raid New Cross sex cinema and find 10 people insideThursday 19 February 2015
The venue in a former printing shop was said by the Daily Mirror to be managed by a pornography connoisseur called ‘Roger’:
‘Unlicensed’ porn cinema raided over claims of customers having sex during hard-core movie screenings
The cinema was still open as of Monday 23rd February:-
New Cross sex cinema ‘still open’ despite police raid
John Lucas encourages some Club 487 customers to open up, then it all comes pouring out:-
This Is What It’s Like to Watch Your Wife Regularly Have Sex with Other Guys
NEW! FRIDAY 6TH MARCH:-
“We ain’t a sex cinema” says manager of New Cross sex cinema, by Mark Chandler
From East London Lines:-
“Last sex cinema in London” applies for full club licence
‘Pray for it to close’ – New Cross ‘filth hole’ sex cinema ‘attracting prostitutes’
Newsshopper Tuesday 7 April 2015
The moment of truth finally arrives?
New Cross sex cinema applies for licence to show films
Newsshopper Tuesday 28 April
Licence Hearing on June 2nd: Asking to be allowed to show FILMS “up to maximum rating of 18”
http://councilmeetings.lewisham.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=168&MID=3788#AI11499
Fire Brigade Enforcement Notice from 14th April
New Cross sex cinema saga approaches climax
LICENSING COMMITTEE GRANTS 487 LICENCE TO SHOW “FILMS”! 2nd JUNE 2015
News Shopper reporter Mr Chandler missed the meeting due to a mysterious woman trespasser on his train line. When the trespasser was removed, the train then returned the way it had come from and terminated. All very very mysterious. This sinister turn of events led to Mr Chandler arriving at the Town Hall just as the committee withdrew to make their decision. Returning to announce that Club 487 had succeeded in its request to show films (up to BBFC rating of 18 only), with the only proviso CCTV had to be installed in all rooms.
Happy ending for New Cross sex cinema as it gets licence to show films. News Shopper 3rd June 2015
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Serpent's Egg 
Club 487 closed down June 2016. Re-opened as The Office, Limehouse Sept 12 2016
After Bermondsey, they were planning yet another new venue. The mobile number I had for them is no longer working, so I can’t contact them. Does anyone know how I can reach them, as I like to take girls there
I am 10 inches thick but would really like to be bummed to kingdom come. I can take DP too but only thick big ones. Is it still open?
Hi looking for glory hole to work at please can you help me
email xyzpaul99@yahoo.co.uk
487’s next challenge may be the Fire Brigade Enforcement Notice hanging over their heads like an unsheathed Sword of Damocles, compliance due by 7th July.
487’s next challenge is convincing a council that told them they must have facial recognition CCTV installed that covering faces is ok! Lol
Totally true mate. They’re not gonna insist on that kind of CCTV & then let people cover faces up.. Would kinda defeat the object. I’m staying away, I don’t wanna be filmed thanx
Must the CCTV be installed today, this week, this month? They are not saying. Presumably therefore Peter Jones will delay its installation as long as possible.
They’re not meant to be open until it’s installed.
It doesn’t sound viable to me, the license restrictions are too much. Only allowed to show ‘normal’ 18 films, not R18, Facial Recog CCTV in every room except toilet (which could get busy) & recordings retained for 31 days…..They won’t have many customers
Ah well. Pity, but it is a shithole anyway
Someone tells me they are just showing “really bad” soft porn now?
Has anyone been lately? Can someone tell me if it’s open & is it showing decent films? I wouldn’t mind a visit before cctv goes in but don’t wanna see ‘Escape To Witch Mountain’ again!
Nooo. It’s ‘Bedknobs & Broomsticks’ this week )
‘Really bad’ as in really bad or ‘really bad’ as in really good??
2nd June is license hearing:
http://councilmeetings.lewisham.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=168&MID=3788#AI11499
Let’s keep our fingers crossed then. Good luck Club 487. The management have got balls I’ll give them that (except the lady with the huge knockers of course!).
I’ll try and get down to the Club before June 2nd just in case the application is thrown out. Let’s hope not.
Mark.
“The application purely relates to the showing of films up to a maximum rating of 18.” — Kim Giddings, Principal Licensing Officer.
Balls? Nah. Chancer tossers who couldn’t run the proverbial in a brewery more like! Lol
I notice that on the license application that the applicant, Mr ‘Peter Jones’ has given no home address & a pay as you go mobile number as his only contact method.
Also if you look at his signature on the document you can clearly see that he did it wrong first time & had another go!
Classy.
It might come down to whether the committee are porn lovers or not, and the “chair” as she is known, Eva Stamirowski, looks like she is well into it. http://councilmeetings.lewisham.gov.uk/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=116
It’s the whole chancer mentality again. They’re applying for a ‘normal’ film license because they know they won’t get a porn one. If they get it then they’ll ignore it & show what they want, then the council will have to prove that, revoke license etc….All this takes time & Chancer Boys might get a few more months out of it. It’s not rocket science, it’s chancers & cash
Lol. Bet ‘Peer Jones’ isn’t that pleased…. CCTV with facial image recognition? In a sex cinema? I have a feeling that may curtail activities & kill business a little eh Pete??
A lot of women have their faces covered when they go there.
If faces are covered they’ll be breaching license regs & closed
Totally true mate. They’re not gonna insist on that kind of CCTV & then let people cover faces up.. Would kinda defeat the object. I’m staying away, I don’t wanna be filmed thanx
I was being crude. I just meant a lot of women have their faces covered with what we in the medical profession call spermatozoa or “South East London man juice”.
Mark Chandler says representations from local residents/businesses etc are now possible, but no date yet set for public hearing. He says they have just applied for a licence to show films though, NOT for a sex establishment licence, which I understood is necessary if you are showing films of a sexual nature!
There won’t be a ‘public hearing’. It’s not a rail disaster! Lol
It’s a fair point! But local residents must be given chance to stand up and speak their mind? People could go to the meeting when the Abcat lost their licence I thought.
Perhaps a stupid question, but why is this place applying for a license to show ‘films’ when no planning permission has been granted for change of premises use from a printers shop?
Am I missing something?
What on earth is your problem?! If you don’t like it don’t go, it as simple as that. It’s pure hypocrisy to try and wish the worse for the place, even though you’ve indulged in its vices yourself! There are some out there, who just want to go along watch a few porn flicks, play around, etc and what harm do they do?.
Considering, the violent crime in Lewisham and their failed social services that can’t protect young children from sexual abuse and the local hypocritical, self appointed preachers, with a Bible in one hand and a bullet in the other! A little pervy, seedy sex cinema is the least of society’s problems. Don’t you think?
It’s people like you that demonize and victimize the sexually and socially inept, instead of picking on the real culprits, as mentioned above, that are genuinely sickening!!
Just get a life and leave Club 487 alone, once and for all.
Club 487 will be history very soon Brian me old mate! perv whilst you can! Lol
Perhaps if someone opens a cinema properly, planning, permissions, licenses etc it will last. Not these chancers & not this shithole I don’t think!
Winston is right unfortunately. Until someone opens one up legally & properly these places are doomed to failure. Chancers will never succeed, it needs a measured approach to remain open & opening opposite a school & church was never a good idea.
What I don’t understand is why the Council are doing nothing about it? The police raided more than 2 months ago so the Council and Police know it is there and unlicenced, opposite a school, etc, etc, but the last recorded comment from the council (Cllr Joe Dromey) was “We’ve been speaking to the local community and if anyone has any concerns, I’d encourage them to get in touch with us.” Er, is that it? Can anyone explain the inertia on this? Not getting backhanders from the cinema I am sure, but what then? It is a mystery.
Lewisham Council have no balls?? No doubt that’s why they chose it
They do have a license application in with the council.
Last date for representations is 12th May so maybe some action after that date when they’re officially not allowed to be there
I was thinking for them to have gone in there and spent thousands of pounds on building work in the old printers, SOMETHING must have given them confidence that the money would not be wasted. After the vicious wiping out of Abcat, Oscars and FV in Islington, you’d think anyone would think twice about investing thousands to open a new place unlicenced; so what gave them such confidence that it would NOT be money wasted? One wonders if they did check with Lewisham before doing it and were given the nod on the quiet?
Nudge, nudge, wank, wank. A nod’s as good as a wank.
I think they’re just chancers. They know they’ll be closed down eventually, they just know it’ll take a while & while it does they’re earning money. They’ll be history by the summer, Lewisham might have no balls for a fight but they’ll never license them
Sunday 12th April 2015. Hi, I live close, so I popped along just to see if it is still open. Yes, it is! Hooray!! I chatted with ‘Peter Jones’. There is a copy of an ‘Application for a premises licence’ on the door. Fingers crossed it will keep open and become the new Fantasy Video.
Never happen mate. FV was great, this place is a shithole
Just searched Lewisham council license applications. No license applied for. ”Brett Jones’ was fibbing me thinks.
True enough! Visited last week & it is a shithole run by cowboys unfortunately. I imagine clock’s ticking on a big old raid & closure. On Health & Safety grounds if nothing else! Lol. Horrible venue
I gotta get my fix
There are rumours that the Mayor of Lewisham is going to open the new ‘Gloryhole’ section, along with other council ‘members’………..
It is a pity these places are inevitably all closing. Fantasy Video was a great venue but unfortunately when it became Mr B’s it was indeed as if ‘the lunatics had taken over the asylum’ & it’s demise was only a matter of time. If it’s the same idiots running this place then the writing is on the wall I fear
Ahmen to that Peter.
When is the license hearing & the inevitable closure that will follow I wonder.
It is probable that this is the first time in history that people have travelled from ALL OVER THE COUNTRY to visit New Cross. This has really put New Cross on the map. A seminal moment in New Cross’s history.
Semenal more like! )
I actually looked that up before I posted my comment and apparently seminal does have a double meaning i.e. something very important AND something pertaining to semen! Who knew!
seminal
ˈsɛmɪn(ə)l/Submit
adjective
1.
strongly influencing later developments.
“his seminal work on chaos theory”
synonyms: influential, formative, groundbreaking, pioneering, original, creative, innovative; More
antonyms: irrelevant, unimportant
2.
relating to or denoting semen.
“the spermatozoa are washed to separate them from the seminal plasma”
synonyms: spermatic, sperm, seed; More
There is no license application of any kind on the Lewisham Council website for this address. Are they trying their luck without one like they did in Islington I wonder?
I’m confused. I thought the manager was the porn connoisseur called ‘Roger’, then I thought it is Brett of Mr B’s, now we hear it is Peter Jones. Or Danny. Too many cocks spoil the broth.
Peter Jones? From Dragons Den? Lol. If it’s the cowboys who took over Mr B’s then ‘Roger’ is —- — & —– is his son I believe. They killed off FV when they took over with shite management policy
It was all over the Islington Gazette at the time, names & trials! Hehe. Check it out
Thank you for your comment Leroy and sorry for the edit, I am just cautious about printing “accusations”!
Who cares who it is! I’m just glad it’s still open!
Thanks for the contact number, I’ll call them on Monday – see why they weren’t open when I visited on 3rd March.
Can’t wait to visit soon to check the place out.
Mark
A message from Club 487 management itself:
Address is 487 New Cross Rd SE14 6TQ
Mon – Sat 11am to 10pm
Sun – 12pm to 9pm
Single guys £15 paid for the week. Attend as many times as you like. Please check on rac route planner if coming by car or google for public transport.
If any problems with directions or for more info please call receptionist on 07932 891529.
Opposite a school??! Not too bright these lads then? Lol
Oh right! I’ll check it out again, hopefully it’ll stay open. Maybe need more time to become established?
My informant tells me the place just LOOKS like it is boarded up. He went there on Monday (2nd March) and it was indeed still open. He even finally met the famous Brett, the Mr B himself? The Licence has been applied for and copy of the application is on display as required.
Brett May? I wouldn’t call him famous ) Lots of other things but not that. They’ll never get a license while you’ve got a hole in your arse mate!
Lol @ Wendy.
Hate to say she’s probably right though (
Hi,
I went to 487 New Cross Road on Tuesday the 3rd March and it was definitely closed at 12:30pm! The two (grey) doors had metal shutters pulled over them down to the pavement. Couldn’t even see the entrance let alone try to enter as there was no access. Hope to are correct about licence being applied for but I was pretty pissed at having travelled all the way from the south coast by train to find no signs of life (or porn) at Club 487.
Mark
Strange. Maybe they just opened late, or don’t open till 1pm or something. The Club posted a message today to say the membership cards are up & running so expect to fill in your (a) name and address next time you go.
It’s a real pity, but I knew it wasn’t going to last long. Just not the same as FV/Mr B’s, the sleaziness had gone and the venue was far from ideal, opposite a school of all places!! They needed to find a more discreet, private place. Maybe, another one will open, but I think the day’s of the porno cinemas are now gone for good? Even the saunas are slowly closing down, only those who can afford the exorbitant operating and licence costs, changing times and a new puritanism by local authorities, has put an end to the fun times.
Well I finally made it to 487 New Cross Road – There was no sign of the Cinema and the doors to the Printers was closed and shuttered and the windows boarded up on the inside. This was extremely annoying (and frustrating!) as I’d travelled up from Southampton and across town by train!! especially to indulge in the delights on offer there.
What a shame! I’ve been visiting sex cinemas for many years since I was 18 (FV and Mr B’s over 15 years) and now there’s nowhere to go, what’s going on!!? surely what happens in these places is no worse or different than what happens in the many Gay Saunas in London and nobody gives a hoot about that!
Oh well! If someone would open another Adult Cinema establishment in London I will certainly go, along with many others I suspect! there’s certainly a market for these places. Please, please, please! apply for a licence first to get the Councils off your back!
Mark (limp dick) Skidamore.
went there myself a couple of times when I was last in London.
The best thing is … it is there at least! Fantasy Video it is not! According to one guy I was chatting to (after a mutual suck of course, lets get priorities straight eh!) it isn’t the same owner(s) as FV. I didn’t go and ask them but there was none of the crew that I recognised.
The first afternoon I went it was all a bit dismal, not a great deal of ones to my taste and neither much action. One of the films was absolutely dismal – various tits of exaggerated size getting “fucked” by the same cock. I mean, who’s into that sort of stuff? – seriously. When there is so much good fuck film action online, why don’t they just take it from there?
Anyway, I gave it a second go and, the film was better; what was on offer also and a higher action level. As Murphy would have it, I only had a short time free the second day but at least it gave some hope for the future. As I say, at least it’s there. Better than nowt and maybe it will develop but, so long as you go without expecting it to be as Fantasy you could have fun
Hi,
Can anyone tell me if this Cinema is still open. I plan to visit tomorrow 3rd April and as I’m travelling up from the south coast by train I don’t want to arrive and find it closed up.
Any info would be appreciated.
Mark
I don’t have number but the local paper confirms the place is still open (Monday 23rd Feb). Apparently the police “tossed” 10 middle-aged men onto the street before “probing” the manager? Filth!
Anyone have a phone number for Club 487. I plan to visit for the first time next week (Monday or Tuesday) and as I’m travelling from Southampton it would be great is I could check it’s still open before I spend a bloody fortune on the train fare!
Thanks.
Yeah I’m pleased its still open, I’ve never been but was really looking forward to going. Hope I managed to go at least once before it closes!
John Lucas reports the cinema manager says it was just a drugs raid and the place has reopened the next day. One presumes the Police and Lewisham Council will not leave it at that.
Thank goodness for that! I haven’t been able to get there yet but intend to visit the week after next – just hope it’s still open then. I visited Fantasy/MrB’s over 15 years and I really miss the fun and excitement/sleeze of the place!
So in a nice touch the Police raided the place on its 50th day. 50 Days of Sodom & Gomorrah. Thank goodness/shame they didn’t take the press photographers with them like the December 2013 Soho raids. I have no doubt someone got caught with his pants down (or panties). It seems amazing the club owners thought they could get away with it? But, the place reopens straight afterwards, so perhaps they will, for a while anyway. The place always seems busy so they must be raking the money in (albeit you can pay £15 for a whole week).
Can’t wait to visit Culb 487. I really miss the good times I had at Mr B’s.
Let’s hope this one doesn’t get closed down – though why I don’t know. Nothing happens in there that isn’t happening in all the Gay Saunas in London and nobody gives a damn!
Apparently their new membership cards are “lost at the printers” and have been since the day they opened.Considering they are inside a building which used to be a printers shop that could be a sly joke.
Thanks so much for all the info, very helpful!
And at the old place couples got in free. Don’t know if the new place follows that custom. Maybe your male companion will pay for himself, and you get in free. Women are VERY welcome, to say the least.
Opening times are roughly
Hours (provisional) Mon – Sat 11:00 to 22:00
Sun 12:00 to 21:00
Weekly charge £15.00. Changeover day as before for repayment will be Saturday, so payment will last from Saturday through Friday, with multiple re-entry permitted.
For a woman to go (as many do) the experience will be 50% feeding frenzy, imagine feeding time at the zoo, and 50% incredible respect. You will be treated like a princess. You will feel like the most special woman in the world. But definitely advisable to bring a male chaperone to make things easier.
How could I find out more about this. It says is a private members club so I’m assuming you cant just turn up.
Yes just turn up I expect. That is what normally happens at these places. Fill in some little membership form, don’t even have to give your real name and address, and they usually hand you your membership card on the spot. Though I am not sure if the new place has organised membership cards yet, I had my old one from Mr Bs and used that. Anyway, it only takes about 60 seconds and you are in.
Perhaps someone else can tell us if the place is even bothering registering new people or just waving them in?
Thanks for the reply. I’ve never been to an adult cinema before but would like to go. It may sound silly but whats the deal on women going, is it best to go in a couple? And just one more question! What are the opening times? Or how can I find out? Thanks
I am going to see this cinema on Feb 20. I will be taking my girlfriend and another guy so I hope it is very nearly as good as fv!
hi there just see your review my partner and i are gonna visit the cinema in new cross. can u please let us know what it is like. thanks
It’s a shithole!
It’s no hoax, Mr B’s or Club 487 has it’s now called, is now open and running. Obviously, it’s early days and a shadow of it’s former self. Hopefully, the licence will be successful, but it’s doubtful, it will have be like Fantasy in it’s heyday? Maybe, it’s the change of location or zeitgeist, but the real raunchy days have gone! Still, once it’s up and running properly, it should be fun!
Hi Trotsky, thanks for the info and your excellent website. I used to be a regular at Mr B’s (Fantasy). I had some great fun there!! Besides, the banter with the guys was also a good crack. I’ll check this place out soon, as it’s not far from where I live. If we all remain discreet, hopefully, this place will be left in peace, for those of us who luv Porno cinemas and flix.
Thanks Again,
Brian
Don’t think so Bri Baby……………Clock’s ticking…..
Yeah, I know it’s a dump, but doubtful if any council in London will allow a legal licence, anymore? The days of the porno cinemas are over I’m afraid!
Dearest Fanny you should see a doctor. I think you are having a Disney spell!
Hi there Serpent’s Egg. Great blog!
I shall visit 487 New Cross Road soon, all the way from Buckinghamshire where I live with my hareem of toyboys. I so love dogging, cottaging and cruising! And sex in cinemas, whilst wearing my mother’s hand-me-down pearls, pink stockings, and 20-inch high killer heels, it’s wonderful. Do you know when they are next showing Bagpuss, Puss in Boots, 101 Dalmatians or the Wizard of Oz?
Thank you for a great post.
lots of love
Fanny
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The local newspaper do not bother to leave their office and investigate for themselves! I would not have been able to provide such a detailed report unless I had been there myself!
They say they have applied for a licence and are waiting to hear back.
So are Lewisham Council fibbing when they say they know nothing about it?
According to the local newspaper this is a hoax. Apparently the local council has neither received nor granted application for licensed sex premises.